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[wook77]

I'm going to try to keep this as short as possible. As Fandom Wank has made mention of this, I will respond.



Below is the timeline, proof and correspondence regarding the sockpuppeting of eeyore9990 as argyle_the_sock.

April 1, 2008: hd_worldcup posts Riptide by a currently anon author. coffeejunkii posts a review. The moderation team screens this review within 2 minutes of posting. I, personally, contact the author to discuss the review. The author responds (email quoted verbatim and with permission):

OK, see, my first impulse is to say hey, go ahead and unscreen, I'm a big girl and I knew when I made the ending ambiguous that some people would really, really hate it. In a way I'm even kind of perversely pleased by the comment, because I'm not sure I've ever gotten a review that was scathing but intelligent - I've mostly just had reviews that were variations of "eew gross hary would never kiss malfyo thats disgustign" ;)

The moderation team unscreens the comment per the author's request. coffeejunkii and I email back and forth to discuss the review. All three parties agree that a conversation after the reveal will be best.

April 8th, 2008: argyle_the_sock on IJ makes a post entitled "How to Comment on a Piece of Fanwork Without Transplanting Your Arse to the Top of Your Head, or How NOT to be an Asshat".

April 9th, 2008: Multiple people email me about this sock. Trap is set to capture IP address of the sock. Screencap of IP logging: here. argyle_the_sock deletes the post and replaces it with "mission accomplished" message. No screen captures of the original post exist.

April 10th(a): I investigate the IP address of the sock against a list of suggested identities. Disqualify all but one.

April 10th (b): eeyore9990 discusses, in iulia_linnea's meta post responding to the original argyle_the_sock post, how she did not pay attention to the contents of the post. Instead, she found herself impressed with the blockquotes.

April 11th(a): I email the person whose IP matched the sock's. This person is eeyore9990 Screencaps of this email in multiple parts (**Please note that the emails have been edited to remove the names of people/communities not involved in this situation. I have kept the names of those that have posted about either this situation or the reviewing at the hd_worldcup. All posts mentioned were, at one time, public**):

First Email
Request for more time
eeyore's response
My Response

April 11th, 2008 (b): Attached to the emails from eeyore9990 is a supposed copy of the post. I have uploaded this post to here. The redacted parts are as originally sent to me. The section that eeyore9990 redacted is the part detailing how coffeejunkii is an asshat.

April 16th, 2008: I received a request for an update as to the status of eeyore9990's fic from a teammate. I refused to discuss it with this person per the terms of my agreement with eeyore9990. Capture.

April 17th, 2008: eeyore9990 emailed me to discuss the status of her fic. I reminded her of the agreement. Capture.

May 4th, 2008: An anonymouse posts a fandom secret concerning the same situation using similar verbiage to the rant from argyle_the_sock. No proof exists that this secret was submitted by eeyore9990. (Link to post: here including an exchange by anonymice below.

Current: Before completing this post, I emailed the author of Riptide for permission to quote her verbatim. When I did so, I received the following response:

Yes, by all means, use whatever you want. Hopefully it'll defuse things a bit…

And no, this definitely did not sour me to the experience. I'd love to participate in an event like this again, assuming RL allows me to. And you can quote that too if you'd like :)

We, the mods, have held to our end of the bargain. We have not discussed this situation with anyone other than those directly involved. I have my suspicions as to how oulangi received her information as to the identity of the sock but they are just that, suspicions. Regardless of where the information came from, there is now fallout from the wanking sockpuppet and, thus, the agreement is null and void.

As for the ramifications to Team EWE, the mods do not want to punish the team for the behaviour of one of their members. It is completely unfair to them as they had no input to the situation. Thus - eeyore9990's story will remain for voting purposes so as not to negatively affect the rest of her teammates. At the conclusion of the games, her story will be removed from the website and the communities. It will also be removed from the official registry of works produced. Her banning will stand.

Comments

[pir8fancier.livejournal.com]

We must continue to disagree on what we view the role of moderator of a fest and the private citizen who runs that fest. I am not swayed at ALL by your argument. I have no idea if similar breeches of the rules (as committed by eeyore) occurred under other mods' watch. I have no idea. I certainly don't recall anything of this magnitude. May I say that if I was aware of any such crossover, I would be on them just as much as I am on you about this. This is not just posting about the fest. This is a policy matter that concerns all of us who wrote stories and read stories. There are those readers who liked eeyore's story and might not be a member of your flist. And all of a sudden her story is yanked from the fest. Why? What do you say to them? May I say that while I disagree with the way you handled the reporting of eeyore's actions, I agree with you completely that her lying ass should have been kicked out of the WC. NO question on that score.

You haven't felt the need to chastise me for posting about HDC or slashfest or any other fest I've run

wook, I don't go looking for trouble. If I had had issues with anything you have done in the past, I would have said something. It's not like I'm a shrinking violet. This isn't any sort of vendetta against you.

Because you're intimately involved in this situation because there are other people "pointing" things out to you and cheering you on as you put yourself out there for them.

Um, no, I'm not. I don't know who is telling you that I am working on anyone else's behalf, that I'm getting information from anyone else. I had NO idea that any of this business was going on. I heard that people were unhappy with the commentary on the stories, but that was it. No names. And if you've read my journal, you know I made at least TWO posts about how if authors don't want to be in a fest like this, where judging is involved, then get out of Dodge. This is/was a contest! So I have little sympathy with anyone on that score. You want to join in a fest like this, then you need a hard skin. People are required to make judgements on the stories and that requires making, um, judgments.

Can I say emphatically that I am not speaking on anyone's behalf. That this is my own little stroke I'm having. I am NOT friends with eeyore. She betaed a story of mine, yes. That was a couple of years ago. I will also say that if I had known she was pulling this sort of shit, I would (and yes, I need to do that), defriend her in a NY minute. I have defriended only one person in my entire LJ "career" because of their behavior. She's going to be number two. I'm appalled at her behavior.

Although I have some stature as a writer in fandom, I am not in the "circle" of people who hear the dish. I've got a family, a job, a writing career on the side, I do not have time to gossip with other fangirls. This was/is only coming from me. I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse, but really, this is just my "stroke" and no one else's.

Okay, here's where I say, we can't move this any further. I've got my strong opinion, you've got your strong opinion, and I don't think there's any meeting in the middle here. But I was looking over the list of fics, and you did a phenonmenal job in organizing and promoting the games, and regardless of our differences, you deserve a high five for all the time and effort you put in on behalf of the community. Thank you for the opportunity to "play." This story was begging to be written and you provided the perfect opportunity. Remember that I hadn't seen the announcement regarding the prompts. And there were two left and one of them was strength. I consider this fate because that's *the* prompt I would have chosen. So yes, thank you.

[roma-fics.livejournal.com]

"Because you're intimately involved in this situation because there are other people "pointing" things out to you and cheering you on as you put yourself out there for them."

Good Lord. Enough already. If anyone knows Pir8fancier they know she speaks her own mind and very well I might add. While we may not agree on some things, she is exactly the type of woman I'd want to be friends with in RL. Strong and independent.

Now, lets get back to someone pointing things out to Pir8fancier. When you first posted this, it garnered attention. Pir8fancier made her comment on your journal, and then noted in another journal that she didn't recognize all of the names above hers from hd_wc. I said it was because she had commented on your personal LJ and not hd_wc. She then made her next comment asking that is be put up on hd_worldcup. That's it, end of story.

I'm only a reader and commenter of the hd_worldcup stories and art. They were awesome. I have no special knowledge, but I have been friends with Eey for a long time before I ever came to LJ and will remain so. (edit: I did not know about this incident until you posted it.) I respect Pir8fancier's choice 'not to be' or 'to be' friends with her. I love h/d fandom and I will not be forced to make a choice in this manner.

[wook77.livejournal.com]

I respect Pir8fancier's choice 'not to be' or 'to be' friends with her. I love h/d fandom and I will not be forced to make a choice in this manner.

As I find the rest of your comment fairly patronizing in word choice and tone, I am only going to respond to the above-quoted part.

No where in any of these conversations have I asked anyone to make a choice of friending or defriending eeyore. I'm definitely not going to dictate - a.) what you may or may not post in your own LJ unlike what is being dictated to me and b.) who you should and shouldn't friend. Those are personal decisions and you are more than welcome to your own opinions and decisions. You want to stay friends with her? Great. That's your choice. I'm not asking or demanding that you choose, yay or nay.

[roma-fics.livejournal.com]

I apologize if it came across that way. It was a bit frustrating to see the comment In addition, someone pointed out to me that this is your personal LJ that pir8fancier made to start this comment, be turned into something more than what it was. pir8fancier, as we know, has her own convictions. No one is cheering about any of this.

You're right, you're not demanding that anyone choose, but as kestrelsparhawk said above, this polarizes folks about HDWC. And like kestralsparhawk, I came into this cold.

As I mentioned above, HDWC was wonderful. I read the stories/art, commented on them, rec'd them, and had a great time discussing them. It was a big success and you and the co-mods I hope are extremely proud of the accomplishment.

However, I will remain confused as to why this was revealed to the rest of us. Like pir8fancier, I would've hoped that this had been kept internal to HDWC participants. The FW did not show HDWC or you, the mod, or you wook77, in a bad light. It was written to take down Eey. It's quite obvious as many of the links the FW OP made to bolster the piece are to posts that have nothing to do with the subject matter and some were written even before the sockpuppet appeared. As a mod, I would have hoped that when the FW appeared, you would have just said this matter has already been handled internally when the violations occurred, and then list what the punishment enacted was.

Yes, you made the stipulation to Eey that if there was more wank that she was responsible for you would reveal the emails. I do not see where she continued. What was revealed was innuendo that she continued and that is what bothers so many of us that participate in fic fests, exchanges, and competition. Someone collected information, early on, and fed it to the FW OP. I would've been pissed off at that person and pissed off at the FW OP for doing this on the night before the reveal.

You've said that you and the mod are the same, and that you cannot switch hats, but as a mod you have now set a precedent that it is acceptable to reveal private emails at the mod's discretion. Without evidence, you released private emails.

I know that had me quaking in my boots. One of the first fic fests I entered was hd_holidays this last year. We had problems and I'm sure nqdonne and taradine could've easily showed what a special snow flake I was when I bitched about it on my LJ. Yes, what Eey did was stupid, but you handled it by banning her and removing her story at the end of HDWC, which is reasonable. To have gone beyond that, though, without having evidence as you had for the sockpuppet, many of us in the hd community find it regretful.

[wook77.livejournal.com]

Srsly?

You just found out the situation through what I've released here. You assume I have no proof that eeyore continued wanking. You assume that I've released everything with a blatant disregard to private communication versus that which I promised to release. You assume that eeyore didn't do anything further. You characterize her hypocritical, mean-spirited, trolling sockpuppet attacks on someone within the HDC as "stupid" and, to start it all off, you give me a heidipology.

I cannot refute your claims that she did nothing else without releasing private correspondence that should not be released including chat transcripts and emails that others have forwarded to me - thus proving your claim that I release private correspondence willynilly.

At this point - I really think that this entire conversation would be better off left alone as this can only end in wank.